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  What is your favourite soup?

  by ninja in

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  help....i am addicted to mulligatawny soup....it has knocked heinz tomato soup and even...even ...home made soup...(for the moment at least)for six....try and break my cult like feelings for mulligatawny and steer me onto another path of soupiness.....meanwhile i give you ..the one...the only.....mulligatawny soup...

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  1. Gazpacho

  2. Chicken Lime Tortilla

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  Trolling Apologist vs. Informed Apostate - WHO IS MORE LIKELY TO CHANGE?

  by BizzyBee in

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  in the battle between apologists and apostates, who do you think more often comes around to the other point of view and why?.

  imho, apologists (or trolls) are just potential apostates who need a little more time in the oven.

  (in other words, they are not fully baked, only "half-baked.

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  Gazpacho..........

  with Chicken Lime Tortilla running a close second.
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  Recently kicked out...

  by bluesbreaker59 in

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  just wanted to share my story.... i was raised a jw all my life, my mother and father married and divorced twice, my mother was disfellowshipped when i was 6 and never came back, choosing a career, and went through various men.

  i was raised by my very loving and wonderful father, easily father of the century in my opinion.

  all my life i was a great kid, example in the hall, great grades, got a full college scholarship, etc.

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  Welcome to the board, Bluesbreaker!!!!

  I stayed in largely because I couldn't bear to break my parents' heart since they had already lost one of my siblings to "the world".

  I know it's hard, especially when you respect & love your Dad, but you did the right thing.

  Whose life is it anyway?

  Jehovah's? Then he should have made us robots.

  Your parent's? Even dubs admit that's not true. (Although some dub-parents make me wonder)

  Yours? Live it.

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  Trolling Apologist vs. Informed Apostate - WHO IS MORE LIKELY TO CHANGE?

  by BizzyBee in

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  in the battle between apologists and apostates, who do you think more often comes around to the other point of view and why?.

  imho, apologists (or trolls) are just potential apostates who need a little more time in the oven.

  (in other words, they are not fully baked, only "half-baked.

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  Informed Apostates are just one small surgical procedure away from going back to Jehovah's True Organization.

  Fortunately for them, frontal lobotomies have fallen out of favor in the medical community.

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  Time to make my thoughts known......

  by R.F. in

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  i have lurked around here for a little while and i've finally seen the need to post.

  i'm 22 years old and a ministerial servant and pioneer in my congregation.

  i'm not really here to knock the organization, but i must admit that there are some things(ex.

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  RF said:

  Then they say i'm "slowing down spiritually" just because my circumstances have changed a bit and I can't work with the field service groups as much during the week,

  Thank you for bringing back a long-forgotten memory for me. I had almost forgotten how single brothers who are "reaching out" are virtually owned by the Elders. Every little step they take, or don't, seems to receive way more scrutiny than the rest of the rank-and-file. Once I became a husband and father, I then had a "scripturally valid" reason to be more career oriented and the elders didn't hassle me (as much). By the way, I'm not recommending you rush into marriage here, which brings me to................

  Quandry said:

  The fact that you are engaged but unable to discuss this with your loved one is most disturbing.

  Hortensia had some great motherly words of wisdom:

  Until you really think this through, don't take any serious steps that can't be undone.

  I stayed single for many years trying to make up my mind about "the truth". If I was going to end up leaving altogether or being a "flaky JW" I didn't want to lead on some nice "strong pioneer sister". I would strongly recommend you do the same. My mistake was I finally gave in to family sentiments instead of being true to my inner voice. I decided to "get serious about the truth". Married, had kids, got plenty of "privileges" and now? I'm trapped in a horrible Catch-22. Love my wife. Don't believe most of "the truth". May eventually end up losing it all if things don't go right. Do you want to be in my shoes in 20 years?

  My concern for you is that you may not be able to think clearly due to your engagement and may be swayed to make huge life decisions largely based on emotion. DO YOUR OWN DUE DILIGENCE!!!

  Barbiecon said a lot of "hey look at the big picture and stay in the organization" stuff. Barbiecon's words, while I now disagree with them, should be taken seriously by you. Why? Barbiecon is sticking up for the other side. And you owe it to yourself to be able to say that you openly and honestly looked at all sides. If you continue to take the time to read here, I'll bet you'll find holes in every one of Barbiecon's assertions. But you need to get there yourself. If you get hung up on anything in particular, then speak up, and you'll easily get 10-50 different viewpoints here on JWD. (And we won't Disfellowship you for daring to have a different viewpoint.)

  Have you checked out the "Best of" section of this site? There's a ton of information there. Bite off what you can handle. Too much, too soon might make you write off JWD altogether and run back to the Borg. Take everything you read with a grain of salt and circumspection.

  Here's to a long, happy, enlightened life. ( "Virtual" glass clinking hasn't been outlawed by the WT.......................Yet. )

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  Are JW's generally better than average people?

  by JH in

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  i for one, would blindly trust just about anyone on this forum, just the fact of knowing that you already were a jw.. does this mean that jw's in general are better people or are we a very close bunch of people?.

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  Where's a good park ranger when you need one?

  DON'T FEED THE BEARS!!!

  OK, we haven't had anything resembling a hard-core dub apologist 'round these parts in a long time, so it's understandable that we all come have a look see. (Well, except for "MAD" and he seems to be coming around.)

  Having been away for a couple of days actually having social interactions with dubs and, dare I say it, "worldly people" as well, I was mildly amused to see Rosalee's fishing expedition still getting plenty of bites. And here I am again adding to the string of JWD "rubber neckers" who just can't keep on driving straight ahead.

  Alright, I'm done. I solemnly swear, this is my last post on this thread.

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  (Thoroughly enjoying the "pit of dense darkness" that is JWD . Oops I forgot. Aren't I supposed to gnashing my teeth?)
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  Wife finally sees truth about "the truth"

  by jakes in

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  well it has finally happened.my wife is not going back to the meetings again.as you would probably read in my previous posts, i have written a book about my experience in the watchtower organisation which is on the verge of being published.she still tried to cling to what little belief she had in the borg and did not want to read my manuscript.we discussed many of the issues and concerns i had about the watchtower but most of the times it ended in a heated argument.. i was quite surprised when she approached me about two weeks ago and asked to read my manuscript.after reading it she handed it back to me and said she fully supports me in publishing this book.her eyes have been opened to the deception and lies.i think she and a friend had a bad experience calling on one of her so-called jw friends.furthermore, she did not attend this past weekends circuit assembly..

  hooray!!!.

  all i have to do now is to introduce her to all you wonderful people here on jwd.. jakes.

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  CONGRATULATIONS TO JAKES!!!

  That is truly wonderful news.

  Feeling just a twinge of envy here, but I'll get over it.

  Hoping that day comes for me as well.

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  At what point have you crossed the "cheating" line?

  by free2beme in

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  i have been married for awhile, and in my 14 years of marriage i have seen many other marriages of friends and relatives, come and go.

  most, if not all, were caused by cheating.

  at work i work with a lot of people of different faiths, to no faiths.

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  How about posting here on JWD, (like me) when your loyal-dub spouse doesn't know?

  Is that "mental cheating"? I've always posted with the viewpoint (hope) that someday she may actually read what I've written.

  But as time goes on, I often wonder if she would view how much time & energy I've spent here without her knowledge as a violation of trust at some level.

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  Hello!

  by The Hamburglar in

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  hello friends, my name is rick berger, long time disfellowshipped jehovah's witness, (back in 1975), first time online!

  good to see you all here, really awake!

  (pun intended of course).

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  Howdy Hamburglar!!

  Pull up a chair.

  Tell us some stories.

  Have a good read.

  Welcome to the board.

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  Ok here is my problem.........

  by fifi40 in

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  i just read some of the thread about keeping our kids away from jws and their teachings.......this is my situation and any helpful advice would be appreciated.......... i have a 14 year old son.

  his father and i have not been together since 1999, when i was disfellowshipped.

  we now share custody.

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  I don't have your situation, so I'm not going to offer any specific advice as far as the whole shared-parenting thing goes.

  DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO PREVENT HIM GETTING DUNKED B4 18!!!!

  I'm married w/kids and a loyal-dub wife who I'm slowly working on. Anyway, I was having a real downer day a while back and I made this post saying that my pre-teen son views baptism as inevitable. And I was feeling the same way. Many JWDers came to my mental rescue. Here's the thread. A lot of the info may be helpful.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/133196/1.ashx

  Wishing you the best,

  Open Mind